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  Friday, October 18, 2002

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Last time FMQB checked in with you was November 1999. How have your jobs changed since then?

Fred: While our core jobs are essentially the same, the changes in the industry have motivated us to constantly innovate. I’m as driven as ever. The internal mantra of the company is to re-invent as much as we can every year. This includes content delivery via our Web site and other technologies, the crafting of promotions that fit the needs and budgets of stations in this tough environment, and simply staying on top of the shifting dynamics of our industry. As the people on my staff will tell you, we push hard to keep it all moving.

Paul: It’s no secret that consolidation has put tremendous pressure on the companies that provide services to radio stations. With budgets tightened, only "suppliers" (we hate that word) that are at the top of their category have done well. As a result, we’ve focused on excellence and service more than ever – and it’s paid off. We’ve thrived under the pressure.

Despite the harsh economy, your client base keeps growing. What is it that you feel Jacobs Media does best?

Fred: Our goal is to redefine the boundaries of programming consulting. Eleven years ago, I brought Paul in, and we became the first firm of our kind to provide services so clients can generate revenue from the ratings we helped deliver. So, when Alternative exploded, we had someone who was able to monetize the format, which probably saved some of those stations from going out of business. And in the past couple of years as the economy turned sour, Paul has been as valuable as any of our programming guys, because the focus of our clients turned to revenue and we were in a position to help. He has really made a difference at stations all over the country, especially as sales staffs have turned over.

The same is true in many other areas. Not that long ago, there was little emphasis placed on smaller markets by major broadcasting companies. But we felt that Bill [Jacobs] had the knowledge and skills to consult clients in smaller and medium markets. We hosted a "Small Market Summit" to allow these stations to come together to discuss and solve many of the issues they were facing. When major broadcasters began to see the value of these radio stations, once again, we were in the right position.

When Alternative was accelerating, I knew that as the Classic Rock guy, I’d need someone with credibility and skills to carry the ball. Tom Calderone was the perfect choice. When he left for MTV, we had Dave Beasing on staff, who has done a tremendous job taking the format into "middle age." And Dave’s professionalism and exposure to other formats made him incredibly valuable as Alternative stations became more common in larger broadcasting company portfolios.

Paul: One of our biggest moves was hiring Tim Davis to be our Internet Strategist. While many consultants shied away from the Internet for fear of its lack of profitability, we saw its potential on many fronts. From our company’s perspective, our Web site has enabled us to re-define how we deliver information to our clients. Additionally, we have created and implemented several Web Polls in cooperation with our clients. This was especially important in the days following 9/11 when programmers everywhere struggled with a myriad of operational issues.

We’ve also been at the leading edge of database marketing, and have developed ways to integrate station Web sites into on-air programming. We understand that stations won’t make much money from their Web sites, but we’ve been able to take the strengths of the Internet and help turn them into assets for our clients. The Internet is a wonderful brand extension for radio, whether it’s communicating with listeners, identifying core P1s, or simply facilitating contesting activity.

Fred: We’ve also redefined how we do market visits. We’ve taken an entirely different approach that we feel is so much more effective. We’re using the technology much better, designing great presentations for airstaffs and sales staffs alike, and getting a lot more done. So, if we do this interview again in three years and I don’t have entirely new answers for you to this question, we haven’t done our job.

  

This article originally appeared in the September 27, 2002 issues of FMQB. For more information about FMQB or to subscribe, visit www.fmqb.com.

It’s been three years since FMQB last checked in with Fred and Paul Jacobs, the duo that heads one of Rock radio’s leading consultant firms, Jacobs Media. At the time, Y2K was just around the corner, the Internet was still filled with promise, Classic Rock was being revitalized and Rock and Modern Rock radio were at the roots of their eventual blurring of format lines. Three years later, the world has survived Y2K and is still here, Internet prospects have been greatly reduced, Classic Rock is alive and kicking and Active and Modern Rock radio still share much of the same territory. FMQB thought it would be a good time to check back with the Jacobs brothers for an update on their views and opinions of the radio landscape.